<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: character arc 2: Creating character arc</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.julie-cohen.com/blog/2010/01/18/character-arc-2/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.julie-cohen.com/blog/2010/01/18/character-arc-2/</link>
	<description>a writer in search of zen-like clam</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 14:29:51 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: Julie</title>
		<link>http://www.julie-cohen.com/blog/2010/01/18/character-arc-2/comment-page-1/#comment-83122</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 09:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.julie-cohen.com/?p=1262#comment-83122</guid>
		<description>Good luck Jan, I hope it helps!

Kris, baby brain doesn&#039;t help.  But I also think looking at work as an editor is different from looking at it as a writer.  It&#039;s a different thing to teach someone how to do something, than to do it yourself.

Witness: me going on about character arc this week, and I&#039;ve really only done minimal work on my own heroine&#039;s character arc... whoops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good luck Jan, I hope it helps!</p>
<p>Kris, baby brain doesn&#8217;t help.  But I also think looking at work as an editor is different from looking at it as a writer.  It&#8217;s a different thing to teach someone how to do something, than to do it yourself.</p>
<p>Witness: me going on about character arc this week, and I&#8217;ve really only done minimal work on my own heroine&#8217;s character arc&#8230; whoops.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Kris Starr</title>
		<link>http://www.julie-cohen.com/blog/2010/01/18/character-arc-2/comment-page-1/#comment-83068</link>
		<dc:creator>Kris Starr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 14:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.julie-cohen.com/?p=1262#comment-83068</guid>
		<description>I know, I know. But I think like a writer more than anything else these days. :P

And baby brain doesn&#039;t help matters in any way, either...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know, I know. But I think like a writer more than anything else these days. <img src='http://www.julie-cohen.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>And baby brain doesn&#8217;t help matters in any way, either&#8230;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Jan S</title>
		<link>http://www.julie-cohen.com/blog/2010/01/18/character-arc-2/comment-page-1/#comment-83061</link>
		<dc:creator>Jan S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 10:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.julie-cohen.com/?p=1262#comment-83061</guid>
		<description>True, Julie.  However my inner voice has been prompting me for a while that something is missing...and comments from a couple of readers suggest the same - so I think I&#039;ll do a little exercise, questioning my heroine&#039;s motivation and influences more deeply, inspired by the content of these blogs.
Taa. x</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True, Julie.  However my inner voice has been prompting me for a while that something is missing&#8230;and comments from a couple of readers suggest the same &#8211; so I think I&#8217;ll do a little exercise, questioning my heroine&#8217;s motivation and influences more deeply, inspired by the content of these blogs.<br />
Taa. x</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Julie</title>
		<link>http://www.julie-cohen.com/blog/2010/01/18/character-arc-2/comment-page-1/#comment-83059</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 09:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.julie-cohen.com/?p=1262#comment-83059</guid>
		<description>Thanks Jan and Lacey.  

Jan, don&#039;t forget, there are SO MANY different ways of doing this stuff.  This is just the way I think about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jan and Lacey.  </p>
<p>Jan, don&#8217;t forget, there are SO MANY different ways of doing this stuff.  This is just the way I think about it.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Julie</title>
		<link>http://www.julie-cohen.com/blog/2010/01/18/character-arc-2/comment-page-1/#comment-83058</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 09:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.julie-cohen.com/?p=1262#comment-83058</guid>
		<description>Ehle, you could never belittle my thoughts by relating them to ANTM!  I love that show!  It&#039;s the only thing I watch on TV.  Seriously.  All of human nature is there.  

I know what you mean, about people taking the external &quot;trappings&quot; of a book and thinking that&#039;s what&#039;s the important part.  It&#039;s the character that&#039;s going to hook you, and you can&#039;t copy that.

I&#039;m glad these posts are addressing something useful for you.  Me, I could use some hints on how to come up with plot.  Because plotting really doesn&#039;t come naturally to me at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ehle, you could never belittle my thoughts by relating them to ANTM!  I love that show!  It&#8217;s the only thing I watch on TV.  Seriously.  All of human nature is there.  </p>
<p>I know what you mean, about people taking the external &#8220;trappings&#8221; of a book and thinking that&#8217;s what&#8217;s the important part.  It&#8217;s the character that&#8217;s going to hook you, and you can&#8217;t copy that.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad these posts are addressing something useful for you.  Me, I could use some hints on how to come up with plot.  Because plotting really doesn&#8217;t come naturally to me at all.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Lacey Devlin</title>
		<link>http://www.julie-cohen.com/blog/2010/01/18/character-arc-2/comment-page-1/#comment-83054</link>
		<dc:creator>Lacey Devlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 06:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.julie-cohen.com/?p=1262#comment-83054</guid>
		<description>Another brilliant post!  Thanks Julie!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another brilliant post!  Thanks Julie!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Jan S</title>
		<link>http://www.julie-cohen.com/blog/2010/01/18/character-arc-2/comment-page-1/#comment-83039</link>
		<dc:creator>Jan S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 22:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.julie-cohen.com/?p=1262#comment-83039</guid>
		<description>Thanks, Julie.  Excellent, clear, incisive post.  Am seriously questionning now, if I&#039;ve really got it right in my current WIP, yet.

Food for thought!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Julie.  Excellent, clear, incisive post.  Am seriously questionning now, if I&#8217;ve really got it right in my current WIP, yet.</p>
<p>Food for thought!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ehle</title>
		<link>http://www.julie-cohen.com/blog/2010/01/18/character-arc-2/comment-page-1/#comment-83030</link>
		<dc:creator>Ehle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 18:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.julie-cohen.com/?p=1262#comment-83030</guid>
		<description>Julie said:  &quot;I wonder sometimes if people who say M&amp;Bs are formulaic are missing this particular aspect—they’re looking at the external plot, which tends to contain the same sorts of things (courtship, arguments, lovemaking, marriage, misunderstandings, etc), instead of the emotional character arc, which is unique to each character and author.&quot;

I think it&#039;s a little bit of both.  For one thing, I think there is a formula to writing any fiction, but only when it comes to structure, not content, and even then, the &quot;formula&quot; is unique to each individual author.  I also think there are some authors who, either due to inexperience or laziness, see what works for someone else and adhere to it without understanding why it worked.  Harry Potter sells well, so I&#039;ll write a book about a boy wizard.  Twilight sells well, so I&#039;ll write a love story about a vampire and a human.  Pride &amp; Prejudice is revered, so of course my hero and heroine will be just like Elizabeth and Darcy.  This isn&#039;t the case all the time, but it does happen, and if a reader is, like you say, blind to the internal workings of the story, the structural similarities can be jarring when it does.

Julie said:  &quot;Everything about this character will be determined, in some way, by her inner conflict, even if this particular aspect might seem contradictory.&quot;

Not to make light of your post, because I&#039;m dead serious about this, but I&#039;ve seen this in action SO MANY TIMES on America&#039;s Next Top Model.  Take a girl who already thinks she&#039;s masculine-looking, stick her in a house with 12 other beautiful women, cut her hair into a pixie &#039;do, and then tell her to be sexy.  Most likely, she will cry and cry and cry until she either owns her fierceness, or is booted for not having any confidence.  I point this out because just so true of human nature, and characters behaving as humans is what makes them… well, human, right?

I&#039;m right now preparing to get started on a novel after an extended period of being away from writing, and these character arc posts are helping more than you can imagine.  Plotting and pacing have always been my strengths--not character, NEVER character--and one of the reasons I&#039;ve been putting off this particular project was because I knew the characters and their internal conflicts were going to play a heavy part, and I wasn&#039;t sure I could pull it off.  Reading these posts, this one especially, has given me ideas on how to weave what I do have (plot, action) with what I don&#039;t have (internal conflict) together in a way that almost feels cohesive enough for a first draft.  It&#039;s still a huge step outside the norm for me, but after reading this, I feel pumped enough to at least give it a go.  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julie said:  &#8220;I wonder sometimes if people who say M&amp;Bs are formulaic are missing this particular aspect—they’re looking at the external plot, which tends to contain the same sorts of things (courtship, arguments, lovemaking, marriage, misunderstandings, etc), instead of the emotional character arc, which is unique to each character and author.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s a little bit of both.  For one thing, I think there is a formula to writing any fiction, but only when it comes to structure, not content, and even then, the &#8220;formula&#8221; is unique to each individual author.  I also think there are some authors who, either due to inexperience or laziness, see what works for someone else and adhere to it without understanding why it worked.  Harry Potter sells well, so I&#8217;ll write a book about a boy wizard.  Twilight sells well, so I&#8217;ll write a love story about a vampire and a human.  Pride &amp; Prejudice is revered, so of course my hero and heroine will be just like Elizabeth and Darcy.  This isn&#8217;t the case all the time, but it does happen, and if a reader is, like you say, blind to the internal workings of the story, the structural similarities can be jarring when it does.</p>
<p>Julie said:  &#8220;Everything about this character will be determined, in some way, by her inner conflict, even if this particular aspect might seem contradictory.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not to make light of your post, because I&#8217;m dead serious about this, but I&#8217;ve seen this in action SO MANY TIMES on America&#8217;s Next Top Model.  Take a girl who already thinks she&#8217;s masculine-looking, stick her in a house with 12 other beautiful women, cut her hair into a pixie &#8216;do, and then tell her to be sexy.  Most likely, she will cry and cry and cry until she either owns her fierceness, or is booted for not having any confidence.  I point this out because just so true of human nature, and characters behaving as humans is what makes them… well, human, right?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m right now preparing to get started on a novel after an extended period of being away from writing, and these character arc posts are helping more than you can imagine.  Plotting and pacing have always been my strengths&#8211;not character, NEVER character&#8211;and one of the reasons I&#8217;ve been putting off this particular project was because I knew the characters and their internal conflicts were going to play a heavy part, and I wasn&#8217;t sure I could pull it off.  Reading these posts, this one especially, has given me ideas on how to weave what I do have (plot, action) with what I don&#8217;t have (internal conflict) together in a way that almost feels cohesive enough for a first draft.  It&#8217;s still a huge step outside the norm for me, but after reading this, I feel pumped enough to at least give it a go.  Thanks!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Kate Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.julie-cohen.com/blog/2010/01/18/character-arc-2/comment-page-1/#comment-83023</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.julie-cohen.com/?p=1262#comment-83023</guid>
		<description>Julie, I think I know her &#039;why&#039; but not his. Of course, being so bloody reserved, he won&#039;t tell me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julie, I think I know her &#8216;why&#8217; but not his. Of course, being so bloody reserved, he won&#8217;t tell me.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Julie</title>
		<link>http://www.julie-cohen.com/blog/2010/01/18/character-arc-2/comment-page-1/#comment-83019</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 15:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.julie-cohen.com/?p=1262#comment-83019</guid>
		<description>Er...Kris...?  You were my editor?  You taught me this stuff, dude??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Er&#8230;Kris&#8230;?  You were my editor?  You taught me this stuff, dude??</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

