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	<description>a writer in search of zen-like clam</description>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
		<link>http://www.julie-cohen.com/blog/2010/02/26/just/comment-page-1/#comment-85342</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 09:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Shelley, and welcome to my blog!  My commenters are definitely very interesting and witty.

I agree, sometimes you do need a lot of guys.  Maybe a lot of just guys.  Maybe some guys who are just Justices of the Peace, called Justin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Shelley, and welcome to my blog!  My commenters are definitely very interesting and witty.</p>
<p>I agree, sometimes you do need a lot of guys.  Maybe a lot of just guys.  Maybe some guys who are just Justices of the Peace, called Justin.</p>
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		<title>By: Shelley</title>
		<link>http://www.julie-cohen.com/blog/2010/02/26/just/comment-page-1/#comment-85182</link>
		<dc:creator>Shelley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 18:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently discovered this blog after reading Girl from Mars, and am pleasantly surprised at how interesting and witty the comments are. I&#039;ll definitely be back for more.

On the word front, I overdo &quot;just&quot; also and find myself going back and deleting it when I&#039;ve gone a &quot;just&quot; too far. I used to write a column that was a humorous take on single life; I opened one up at random and found the word &quot;guy&quot; about 10 times in a 1,000 word piece. Sometimes you just need a lot of guys, I guess. And a few justs. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently discovered this blog after reading Girl from Mars, and am pleasantly surprised at how interesting and witty the comments are. I&#8217;ll definitely be back for more.</p>
<p>On the word front, I overdo &#8220;just&#8221; also and find myself going back and deleting it when I&#8217;ve gone a &#8220;just&#8221; too far. I used to write a column that was a humorous take on single life; I opened one up at random and found the word &#8220;guy&#8221; about 10 times in a 1,000 word piece. Sometimes you just need a lot of guys, I guess. And a few justs. <img src='http://www.julie-cohen.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
		<link>http://www.julie-cohen.com/blog/2010/02/26/just/comment-page-1/#comment-85113</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 07:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have an awful suspicion that if I&#039;d been your English teacher, I&#039;d be even older than I am now.

Or something like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an awful suspicion that if I&#8217;d been your English teacher, I&#8217;d be even older than I am now.</p>
<p>Or something like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.julie-cohen.com/blog/2010/02/26/just/comment-page-1/#comment-85097</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 23:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julie, I wish you&#039;d been my English teacher. They never even tried to each us stuff like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julie, I wish you&#8217;d been my English teacher. They never even tried to each us stuff like this.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
		<link>http://www.julie-cohen.com/blog/2010/02/26/just/comment-page-1/#comment-85089</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 20:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s the use of the word &quot;passive&quot; that got me going, Kate.  What you mean, I think, is that you wanted more action in your novel rather than describing continuous states of being.  That makes a lot of sense and is a good tip.

But the passive voice is something completely different—it would be, in your example, &quot;my hand was held by him&quot;.  Which also has &quot;was&quot; in it.  But it&#039;s not the &quot;was&quot; that makes it passive, it&#039;s the action itself.

I just hear that &quot;don&#039;t use &#039;was&#039; because it&#039;s passive&quot; argument all the time, by people who think it&#039;s gospel, and in fact it&#039;s grammatically inaccurate and just plain wrong, and I&#039;m a damn English teacher at heart so I can&#039;t help it.  

Sorry to jump on it.  I do in fact agree with what you meant.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s the use of the word &#8220;passive&#8221; that got me going, Kate.  What you mean, I think, is that you wanted more action in your novel rather than describing continuous states of being.  That makes a lot of sense and is a good tip.</p>
<p>But the passive voice is something completely different—it would be, in your example, &#8220;my hand was held by him&#8221;.  Which also has &#8220;was&#8221; in it.  But it&#8217;s not the &#8220;was&#8221; that makes it passive, it&#8217;s the action itself.</p>
<p>I just hear that &#8220;don&#8217;t use &#8216;was&#8217; because it&#8217;s passive&#8221; argument all the time, by people who think it&#8217;s gospel, and in fact it&#8217;s grammatically inaccurate and just plain wrong, and I&#8217;m a damn English teacher at heart so I can&#8217;t help it.  </p>
<p>Sorry to jump on it.  I do in fact agree with what you meant.  <img src='http://www.julie-cohen.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Kate Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.julie-cohen.com/blog/2010/02/26/just/comment-page-1/#comment-85085</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 19:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know what you mean about &#039;was&#039; having its place, but its place wasn&#039;t where it, er, was.

To write, &quot;He was holding my hand when I stumbled,&quot; is fine, and that&#039;s where it belongs. Or to have my heroine rambling on (they do this) and then noticing, &quot;He was staring into the distance,&quot; also works. But I had passive little bits like, &quot;He was holding my hand,&quot; without anything else. What I needed was the action of him taking her hand.

Argh. It makes sense to me. (This is the part where I wish I&#039;d learned more about Eng lang so I could actually explain the sentence parts I&#039;m talking about. I understand how it works, but I don&#039;t know the names for it. Stupid modern education.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know what you mean about &#8216;was&#8217; having its place, but its place wasn&#8217;t where it, er, was.</p>
<p>To write, &#8220;He was holding my hand when I stumbled,&#8221; is fine, and that&#8217;s where it belongs. Or to have my heroine rambling on (they do this) and then noticing, &#8220;He was staring into the distance,&#8221; also works. But I had passive little bits like, &#8220;He was holding my hand,&#8221; without anything else. What I needed was the action of him taking her hand.</p>
<p>Argh. It makes sense to me. (This is the part where I wish I&#8217;d learned more about Eng lang so I could actually explain the sentence parts I&#8217;m talking about. I understand how it works, but I don&#8217;t know the names for it. Stupid modern education.)</p>
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		<title>By: Ehle</title>
		<link>http://www.julie-cohen.com/blog/2010/02/26/just/comment-page-1/#comment-85046</link>
		<dc:creator>Ehle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 00:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just.  That.  Like. Well.  You know?  I don&#039;t mean to use them.  It&#039;s just that... well, they like just come out, you know?

PS - it&#039;s won ton.  Wanton soup is what you get when you forget your safe word...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just.  That.  Like. Well.  You know?  I don&#8217;t mean to use them.  It&#8217;s just that&#8230; well, they like just come out, you know?</p>
<p>PS &#8211; it&#8217;s won ton.  Wanton soup is what you get when you forget your safe word&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
		<link>http://www.julie-cohen.com/blog/2010/02/26/just/comment-page-1/#comment-85031</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 20:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not one of those people who get cheesed off at the presence of the verb &quot;was&quot;.  Especially as you say you used it, Kate—&quot;she was sitting&quot; is NOT passive.  It is the past continuous tense of the verb &quot;to sit&quot;.

It sort of drives me crazy when people condemn the use of the verb &quot;was&quot; in these situations, because it&#039;s a perfectly legitimate verb tense, and doesn&#039;t imply lack of action.

Sure, use active verbs rather than &quot;to be&quot; or &quot;to seem&quot; or &quot;to become&quot; as much as you can.  That&#039;s a good recommendation.  But to toss out the past continuous tense, just because it requires an auxiliary verb, is silly.  You might as well toss out the future tense because you have to use the word &quot;will&quot; to form it.

&quot;Was thinking&quot; has a completely different meaning than &quot;thought&quot;, and is no less active.

Right.  Sorry.  Rant over. 

&quot;Wanton&quot; can be over-used, I&#039;m sure.  Unless you&#039;re talking about the soup kind.  Because that is really tasty.

Or is that won ton?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not one of those people who get cheesed off at the presence of the verb &#8220;was&#8221;.  Especially as you say you used it, Kate—&#8221;she was sitting&#8221; is NOT passive.  It is the past continuous tense of the verb &#8220;to sit&#8221;.</p>
<p>It sort of drives me crazy when people condemn the use of the verb &#8220;was&#8221; in these situations, because it&#8217;s a perfectly legitimate verb tense, and doesn&#8217;t imply lack of action.</p>
<p>Sure, use active verbs rather than &#8220;to be&#8221; or &#8220;to seem&#8221; or &#8220;to become&#8221; as much as you can.  That&#8217;s a good recommendation.  But to toss out the past continuous tense, just because it requires an auxiliary verb, is silly.  You might as well toss out the future tense because you have to use the word &#8220;will&#8221; to form it.</p>
<p>&#8220;Was thinking&#8221; has a completely different meaning than &#8220;thought&#8221;, and is no less active.</p>
<p>Right.  Sorry.  Rant over. </p>
<p>&#8220;Wanton&#8221; can be over-used, I&#8217;m sure.  Unless you&#8217;re talking about the soup kind.  Because that is really tasty.</p>
<p>Or is that won ton?</p>
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		<title>By: Kate Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.julie-cohen.com/blog/2010/02/26/just/comment-page-1/#comment-85028</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 19:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my last book it was &#039;was&#039;, and &#039;were&#039; as a close second. &quot;She was sitting...&quot; &quot;We were walking...&quot; &quot;I was thinking...&quot; Everything was so passive!

Then again, once I got told off for using the word &#039;wanton&#039; too much. Says something, I&#039;m sure, but what it says I don&#039;t think I want to know!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my last book it was &#8216;was&#8217;, and &#8216;were&#8217; as a close second. &#8220;She was sitting&#8230;&#8221; &#8220;We were walking&#8230;&#8221; &#8220;I was thinking&#8230;&#8221; Everything was so passive!</p>
<p>Then again, once I got told off for using the word &#8216;wanton&#8217; too much. Says something, I&#8217;m sure, but what it says I don&#8217;t think I want to know!</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
		<link>http://www.julie-cohen.com/blog/2010/02/26/just/comment-page-1/#comment-84979</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 19:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jolt?!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jolt?!?</p>
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